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The origin of "tough nuggies"
RE: The demise of good english and spelling things correctly
| Poppa, I have "Fountains of Wayne" playing in my head
and strong coffee to sip, but you don't sound angry to me.
As for "tough nuggies", the original phrase was "tough
nougies" and arose among a group of workers at a candy
factory. They were have quality problems with their corn
syrup supplier and the level of sugar in the corn syrup was
fluctuating wildly. As a result, they would end with batches
of nougat that were too chewy or tough to be sold. And so
the complaint would be heard from time to time, "Oh no! More
tough nougies!" The workers began using the phrase outside
of work to mean tough luck and usage spread. Folks
unfamiliar with the phrase's origin corrupted the spelling
to the now-dominant nuggies.
Well, at least it makes a good story. Garden writers can
try their hands at fiction, too!
V. |
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RE: The demise of good english and spelling things correctly
- Posted by:
Poppa
z5 MA (My
Page) on Thu, Sep 30, 04 at 15:22
| V: you were very close... I found this reference...
The origin of "tough noogies" is a bastardization of the
french phase "touche nougat" and was documented in the
description of the duel between one Monsieur LePrend and a
Monsieur Pelland in 1512. In this instance, the duel lasted
several hours and a frustrated Mr. Pelland (who was
defending his wife's honor and considered Mr. LePrend
unworthy of common coutesty) resorted to repeatedly whapping
his opponant with his epee in a particulaly sensitive area.
Each time he made contact he would proclaim "touche
nougat!", claiming the right to a point (duels were won on a
point system). According to the rules of dueling at that
time, it was highly improper to stike on below the belt and
the English referee, refused to record the points. In an
after-duel interview to the English press, the referee
explained the bad points as, "all tough nouggies for mr.
Pelland" and the rest is history. |
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RE: The demise of good english and spelling things correctly
I stand corrected, the phrase "t'aoof naoogies" dates
back to the Viking invasions of the British Isles back in
the days of yore. The Vikings, as is well known engaged in
rape, sack and pillage of the poor Brits and their villages.
What is not know is that there were three seperate long
boats that were designated their duties before leaving the
homeland. One expressly for raping another for pillaging and
the third for sacking. On the occasion in question the
duties were duly given out to much groaning and complaining
from the crew who had drawn the rape boat. "Oah nufew nary
agint da frendic assi chsiu." which roughly translated means
"Oh no not again that's the third time this week, we are
tired." To which the other crews responded with a rousing "t'aoof
naoogies."
Apparantly it was not until Eric the Red discovered America
that the phrase reached these shores, it is said that Bill
Murray is indeed a direct descendant of Eric. |
RE: The demise of good english and spelling things correctly
- Posted by:
Poppa
z5 MA (My
Page) on Thu, Sep 30, 04 at 21:08
| The phrase, in all seriousness comes from the 22n'd
century. Time travelers from that era are used to all sorts
of technology we aren't currently accoustomed to, but are
only starting to acquire. One of the more popular pastimes
to come is playing with gentetic splicing kits commonly
found at Wal*Mall. An error in a shipment of new "Pegasus"
kits resulted in an abberration of nature. Instead of the
expected horse/trumpeter swan cross, many people ended up
with either a cross between the Black Angus and carolina
parakeet or a cross between the African grey goose and the
African Antelope. If you attempted to return the product for
a refund, the Wal*mall counter help were allowed to accept
the animals derived from domestic animals, but due to import
laws were not allowed to accept returns for the exotic
varieties. When you stood in line, you'd either be greeted
with "great! Bull-feathers!" or "tough, Gnu-Geese".
Apparently the later stuck in their minds as they travel
back to our time. |
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